{"id":15251,"date":"2025-02-06T14:26:10","date_gmt":"2025-02-06T03:26:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/rationalemagazine.com\/?p=15251"},"modified":"2025-10-15T18:28:46","modified_gmt":"2025-10-15T07:28:46","slug":"robert-harris-edward-berger-and-the-vatican","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rationalemagazine.com\/index.php\/2025\/02\/06\/robert-harris-edward-berger-and-the-vatican\/","title":{"rendered":"Robert Harris, Edward Berger and the Vatican"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Robert Harris is a gifted historical novelist, whose work spans millennia on topics from ancient Rome (<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Imperium<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Pompeii<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Dictator<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">) to the Nazi era (<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Fatherland<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Munich<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">) and the present (<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Conclave<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">). He is clearly interested in the workings of power, the logic of institutions, the nature of diplomacy and the role of individuals on the margins of major events. His latest book, <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Conclave<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, is about the Vatican and Papal elections.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I come from a Catholic background. I took the religion seriously when young and pondered a career as a Jesuit. My parents urged me on. My father declared, \u201cYou could become the first Australian Pope!\u201d But the more I thought about the matter, the less inclined I was to go down any such path.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">At the age of 18, I informed my parents that I would not go to church anymore because I simply did not believe in the doctrinal claims of the Vatican, or the stories in the Bible. I did, however, read seriously about the origins of Christianity, its later history, the nature of the papacy and the church in the modern world.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A film like <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Conclave<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, therefore, is of interest to me at several levels.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The film, directed by German-born director and screenwriter Edward Berger, is good and may win an Oscar or two. Ralph Fiennes, Stanley Tucci, John Lithgow and Isabella Rossellini lead a stellar cast. The sets are magnificently conceived and constructed. One really feels oneself inside the Sistine Chapel during the conclave and other parts of Vatican City throughout. And the procedures for a papal conclave are meticulously reconstructed.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">For those unfamiliar with Catholicism and the Vatican, it\u2019s worth, perhaps, pointing out that Popes (from the Italian Papa\/Father) have been elected for almost two millennia now, making the Papacy by far the oldest elective office or magisterium in the world. Until 1059, the Pope was chosen by a (rough) consensus of the clergy and laity \u2013 note well. At that point, the election became confined to the College of Cardinals.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But only in 1274, under Pope Gregory X, was the procedure dubbed a \u2018conclave\u2019 (from the Latin <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">cum clave<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, \u2018with a key\u2019). The cardinal electors were to be locked in seclusion for the duration of the election to cut them off from corruption or political lobbying. Only since 1492 have the conclaves been held in the then newly built Sistine Chapel. Completed in 1481, it is named for the Pope, Sixtus IV, who had it constructed.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The world-famous ceiling frescoes by Michelangelo were added a generation and more later. The ceiling fresco &#8216;The Creation of Adam&#8217; was painted for Pope Julius II (1503-13). The fresco behind the altar &#8216;The Last Judgement&#8217; was only painted twenty years later, for Pope Clement VII (1523-34), during the Counter-Reformation. All this is lavishly on display in Berger\u2019s film. And the electoral process is fastidiously reconstructed.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It&#8217;s worth adding that Pope Paul VI (1963-78) limited the electors to cardinals under 80 years of age, while Pope John Paul II (1978-2005) and Pope Benedict XVI (2005-2013) introduced a rule that there had to be a two-thirds supermajority to elect a Pope.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In an interview with the <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Catholic Herald<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> in 2016, when the novel was published, Harris declared that he was never baptised, but disdained what he called \u2018an easy atheism\u2019. He provides what can only be called an \u2018easy Catholicism\u2019. His research is excellent, his narrative compelling, his outcome highly original and his book very readable, but Harris is soft on Catholicism.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">He makes it all a little too assimilable and comfortable for the believer or the politically correct. To be sure, that\u2019s a rare combination these days. But there is a lot of first-class history, including very recent history, of the Vatican that is rather conspicuously missing from the film. Or, to put it more diplomatically, is hinted at or touched upon, but as if it is all in the past and not fundamentally problematic.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The three crucial issues are Papal authority, homosexuality in the Vatican and corruption in the upper reaches of the cardinalate. The first is the oldest, but it is vital. A good point to begin is David Kertzer\u2019s 2018 book, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.penguinrandomhouse.com\/books\/536841\/the-pope-who-would-be-king-by-david-i-kertzer\/\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Pope Who Would Be King<\/span><\/i><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> about Pope Pius IX (Pio \u2018Nono\u2019, in Italian, aptly captures what he was about).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The novel and the film take for granted that the Pope is the supreme Christian leader and everything else is about rivalries between conservatives and liberals.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As regards homosexuality, the must-read book is Frederic Martel\u2019s 2019 book, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bloomsbury.com\/au\/in-the-closet-of-the-vatican-9781472966186\/\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In the Closet of the Vatican: Power, Homosexuality, Hypocrisy<\/span><\/i><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, which drew on interviews in person with 41 cardinals, 52 bishops and monsignors, and 45 apostolic nuncios and ambassadors. It laid bare a stunning situation: homosexuality, condemned by the Vatican, is rife in its ranks, while AIDS is more prevalent among the clergy there than in the general population.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/rationalist.com.au\/make-a-donation\/\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-15149\" src=\"https:\/\/rationalemagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/Support-in-2025.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1600\" height=\"400\" srcset=\"https:\/\/rationalemagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/Support-in-2025.png 1600w, https:\/\/rationalemagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/Support-in-2025-300x75.png 300w, https:\/\/rationalemagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/Support-in-2025-1024x256.png 1024w, https:\/\/rationalemagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/Support-in-2025-768x192.png 768w, https:\/\/rationalemagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/Support-in-2025-1536x384.png 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1600px) 100vw, 1600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As for corruption, the Vatican has tried in vain to reform itself, but has been relentlessly secretive in the process. Start with Gerald Posner\u2019s 2015 book, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.simonandschuster.com.au\/books\/Gods-Bankers\/Gerald-Posner\/9781439109861\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">God\u2019s Bankers<\/span><\/i><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, and Gianluigi Nuzzi\u2019s 2015 book, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/us.macmillan.com\/books\/9781427276209\/merchantsinthetemple\/#:~:text=Based%20on%20confidential%20information%E2%80%94including,by%20the%20Pope%20since%20his\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Merchants in the Temple: Inside Pope Francis\u2019s Secret Battle Against Corruption in the Vatican<\/span><\/i><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. Harris is good, but these books are vastly more gripping and informative.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As for <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Conclave<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, the book and film, I wouldn\u2019t want to give too much away to those who are yet to read the first or see the second. But this much is an open secret. The underlying theme is that women are absurdly and humiliatingly subordinate in the Catholic Church and that they have a great deal to offer among men who are too often corrupt or ambitious. I leave it to readers and viewers to discover the details for themselves.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But an oddity is worth dropping in. The names of the two key characters and their nationalities are changed from book to film, for no apparent reason. But the plot isn\u2019t changed. And it\u2019s a very artfully constructed one.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Published on 6 February 2025.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><b><i>If you wish to republish this original article, please attribute to\u00a0<\/i><\/b><a href=\"https:\/\/rationalemagazine.com\/\"><b>Rationale<\/b><\/a><b><i>.\u00a0<\/i><\/b><a href=\"https:\/\/rationalemagazine.com\/index.php\/publishing-guidelines\/\"><b><i>Click here<\/i><\/b><\/a><b><i>\u00a0to find out more about republishing under Creative Commons.<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p><b><i>Photo by <\/i><\/b><a href=\"https:\/\/unsplash.com\/photos\/an-aerial-view-of-a-city-with-a-clock-tower-XoP6H8-mMLU\"><b><i>Yoav Aziz<\/i><\/b><\/a><b><i> on Unsplash.<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Robert Harris is a gifted historical novelist, whose work spans millennia on topics from ancient Rome (Imperium, Pompeii, Dictator) to<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":15252,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[16],"tags":[551,471,752],"coauthors":[151],"class_list":["post-15251","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-ethics-religion","tag-book-review","tag-catholicism","tag-the-vatican"],"acf":[],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/rationalemagazine.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15251","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/rationalemagazine.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/rationalemagazine.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rationalemagazine.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rationalemagazine.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=15251"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/rationalemagazine.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15251\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":15253,"href":"https:\/\/rationalemagazine.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15251\/revisions\/15253"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rationalemagazine.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/15252"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/rationalemagazine.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=15251"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rationalemagazine.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=15251"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rationalemagazine.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=15251"},{"taxonomy":"author","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rationalemagazine.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/coauthors?post=15251"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}